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Family trees in scroll form

I was very lucky that my daughter, Niki, had been visiting us for the past few months. That means she was here when the two huge trees arrived in the mail. … Boy, was I lucky!

When the trees arrived I took one look at them and said those are not very practical the way they are. When completely unrolled, they sprawl over the floor from the front to the back of the apartment. Not very easy to work with.

Knowing that Niki, as opposed to me, is practically inclined I asked her whether she would be interested in trying to set up the trees in scroll form. She gave me a noncommittal “uh-huh”, so I took heart and went online to look for a description of how to do what I was thinking of. I found several and they really didn’t look very complicated. At least for someone like Niki. I showed them to her and she started to show a little more interest. We went downtown together to look for the right materials to use for the project. We finally decided just to buy wooden curtain rods. I searched the Internet for heavy paper to attach the trees to the rods and for appropriate glue, all non-acidic so as help preserve the paper of the tree as long as possible.

Then one day Niki just sat down at the dinner table, pulled out all the materials, measuring implements and other tools, and got down to work. It was marvelous for me to watch her creative concentration. I left her alone and she called me back when she was done. I was so pleased!

A week or so later she did the second tree. Not only that, but she also created a bag to store the two scrolls when they’re not being used. You can see her at the top of this page holding everything in her arms.

Unfortunately she is no longer visiting us here in Germany because she had to fly back to the US. However, if anyone who has ordered a set of trees thinks that their trees might profit from being rolled up in scrolls like this, they might consider getting in touch with Niki to see if she would be interested in doing it for them. I asked her if she would consider it and she said sure she might, if you are willing to pay her flight to come out and visit you and give her food and board while she’s there. … So if you are really interested, just ask! Who knows, she might actually be willing to do it.

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Wyneken family tree project coming to an end

I am overwhelmed by the response I have gotten to my offer of printing out the three updated Wyneken family trees!

All in all I have received orders to be delivered to 35 different addresses. Most of the orders are for complete sets of all three trees. Everybody ordered the overview as I had suggested. Five people decided to order, in addition to the overview, only the tree for their own branch. Five people even ordered two or three sets. All in all 125 trees will be printed.

A number of orders have already been processed, printed and delivered. I hope all the rest of the trees will have reached their final destinations either next week, or the week after at the latest.
The trees are very large, as can be seen in the following pictures.

 

Bederkesa

The huge Bederkesa tree

Rüstje and overview

Me holding the early Wynekens tree. The Rüstje tree is lying on the floor

Ordering for the family trees ends tomorrow

I’m thrilled to report that I’ve been getting lots of orders for the trees!

Twenty six relatives from all over the world have ordered a total of 96 charts. This is roughly equivalent to 32 complete sets of all three trees. I say “roughly” because a few of the people who ordered have only ordered the two trees that pertain to themselves.

I will be accepting more orders through the end of tomorrow, February 15, so if you would like your own copies of the trees please get to me soon.

I will try to send everyone an overview of what they ordered on the weekend along with the final price. I will ask for confirmation and include information on how to pay. Then when I have received all the payments I will place the order at the printing company.

Thank you everyone who has ordered!

Pedigrí actualizado – Precios y Pedido

El último árbol genealógico completo de la familia Wyneken fue compilado alrededor de 1877 / 1878. Desde entonces y dado el tiempo transcurrido, han cambiado muchas cosas en las diferentes ramas de la familia en Alemania, Estados Unidos, España, Chile, Inglaterra y Rusia. Por ello, he creado una versión actualizada e impresa (en inglés) que me gustaría distribuir entre miembros de la familia que estén interesados contra un pequeño aporte monetario.

Debido a que los datos de la familia y su historia ha aumentado tanto, he tenido que dividir el árbol en tres imágenes separadas:

  • Principios y visión general – ca. 80 x 30 cm
  • Rama de Bederkesa (Alemania, Rusia, EE.UU.) – aprox. 80 x 610 cm
  • Rama de Rüstje (EE.UU., Inglaterra, Alemania, España, Chile) – aprox. 100 x 278 cm

Los avances están disponibles en https://wyneken.wordpress.com/2018/12/26/last-tree-complete/.

!!! Pero por favor visite https://wyneken.wordpress.com/2019/01/20/please-be-aware-of-this-important-information para una advertencia en mi blog acerca de no poder incluir a todos los descendientes.

Estas representaciones del árbol se pueden pedir en tres calidades de papel fotográfico:

  • Normal (equivalente a una impresión de buena calidad)
  • Pesado estándar (recomendado por defecto, tipo cartulina delgada)
  • Calidad óptima o superpesado (con grosor tipo cartulina gruesa)

La calidad de los papeles y de la tinta empleados son tales que intentan asegurar la preservación de las representaciones durante muchos años y décadas.

Los precios para el conjunto de los árboles en las 3 calidades son los siguientes:

Normal: 111.75 USD / aprox. 97.63 EUR
Pesado estándar: 150.86 USD / aprox. 131.80 EUR
Superpesado: 195.56 USD / aprox. 170.86 EUR

También habrá que añadir el coste de los gastos de envío.

Finalmente propongo que para “retribuir” este trabajo, todos los interesados compartan el pago de un set de imágenes impreso en calidad superpesada, que pueda adjuntar a todos los antecedentes propios impresos que he levantado a lo largo de los años. Por ello, el costo se distribuiría uniformemente entre todos los “usuarios”, por lo que a mayor número de involucrados el costo per cápita será menor para este set adicional.

Este conjunto de árboles genealógicos refleja la historia de tu familia, tu ubicación en ellos y tus grados de parentesco con los miembros de la familia Wyneken a lo largo de los siglos.


Por favor, hágamelo saber por correo electrónico – mawyn@gmx.de – antes del 15 de febrero si desea ordenar un juego de estos árboles.


Antes de enviar el pedido a la imprenta le enviaré el precio exacto y le haré saber cómo transferirme el dinero.

Por favor, también pase esta información a todos sus parientes Wyneken que pudieran estar interesados. Me gustaría que estos árboles genealógicos se distribuyeran lo más ampliamente posible en toda la familia para que, si alguien decide hacer la próxima versión del árbol en 140 años más, pueda encontrar fácilmente una copia de lo que estoy produciendo ahora.

Aktualisierter Stammbaum – Preise und Bestellung

Der letzte vollständige Stammbaum der Familie Wyneken wurde um ca. 1877 / 1878 erstellt. Seitdem hat sich bei den verschiedenen Zweigen der Familie in Deutschland, den USA, Spanien, Chile, England und Russland sehr viel getan. Ich habe jetzt eine aktualisierte Version des Stammbaums erstellt (auf Englisch). Bis Dato liegen mir 8 Bestellungen dafür vor, und ich suche nach weiteren Familienmitgliedern, die am Erwerb einer eigenen Kopie interessiert sind.

Da die Familie durch die Generationen sehr zahlreich geworden ist, musste ich sie in 3 getrennten Stammbäume aufteilen:

  • Anfänge und Übersicht – ca. 80 x 30 cm
  • Bederkesa-Zweig (Deutschland, Russland, USA) – ca. 80 x 610 cm
  • Rüstje-Zweig (USA, England, Deutschland, Spanien, Chile) – ca. 100 x 278 cm

Kleine Versionen der Bäume findest du in einem früheren Beitrag dieses Blogs.

!!! Der Stammbaum zeigt nicht alle Nachkommen an. Insbesondere musste ich aus Platzgründen leider nach den Kindern weiblicher Namensträger einen Strich machen. Ich habe das hier im Blog — auf Englisch — erklärt. Wer Fragen dazu hat, kann mich gerne kontaktieren.

Die Stammbäume können auf gestrichenem Papier in 3 Stärken bestellt werden:

  • einfaches Papier (vergleichbar mit Kopierpapier guter Qualität)
  • schweres Papier (wird empfohlen)
  • extraschweres Papier (fast wie Fotokarton)

Die Qualität des Papiers und der Tinte sollte dafür sorgen, dass die Stammbäume viele Jahre und Jahrzehnte in guter Kondition erhalten bleiben.

Wenn ich 10 oder mehr Bestellungen erhalte, kostet ein Satz mit allen drei Stammbäumen je nach Papierstärke:

  • einfach: 98,06 EUR
  • schwer: 132,38 EUR
  • extraschwer: 171,61 EUR

Versandkosten kommen noch hinzu.

Da ich schon jetzt 8 Bestellungen habe, gehe ich davon aus, dass das die gültigen Preise sein werden.

Schließlich schlage ich vor, dass meine Arbeit an diesen Stammbäumen durch einen auf extraschwerem Papier ausgedruckten Satz Stammbäume abgegolten wird, den ich dann zu meinen Akten lege. Die Kosten dafür sollen anteilig den anderen bestellten Sätzen hinzuaddiert werden: Je mehr Dreiersätze bestellt werden, desto weniger der Einzelanteil.

Dieser Satz Stammbäume bietet einen guten Überblick über die Geschichte deiner Familie. Damit wird der Verwandtschaftsgrad mit anderen heutigen Wynekens ersichtlich, und du kannst deine Vorfahren durch die Jahrhunderte verfolgen.


Teile mir bis zum 15. Februar bitte per Email verbindlich mit – mawyn@gmx.de – wenn du einen Satz Stammbäume bestellen möchtest.


Ich teile dann den endgültigen Preis mit, bevor die Bestellung an den Druckdienst geschickt wird, und gebe bescheid, wie der Betrag überwiesen werden soll.

In 140 Jahren wird der nächste Familienforscher vielleicht beschließen, eine neue Auflage des Stammbaums zu erstellen. Damit die Chancen gut sein werden, dass er oder sie auf die jetzige Version Zugriff bekommt, wäre es mir wichtig, dass diese Stammbäume in der Familie möglichst weit verbreitet unterkommen. Daher meine Bitte, diese Information an möglichst viele aus deiner Familie und Verwandtschaft weiterzuleiten.

Ordering the updated tree and prices

The last complete family tree of the Wyneken family was compiled around 1877 / 1878. Lots has changed since then in the various branches of the family in Germany, the US, Spain, Chile, England and Russia. I have finished the work on an updated version and I already have orders for eight copies. Now I am looking for other family members who are interested in purchasing a copy for themselves.

Because the family and its history has become so large, I have had to split it up into three charts:

  • beginnings and overview – ca. 32” x 12”
  • Bederkesa branch (Germany, Russia, US) – ca. 32” x 240”
  • Rüstje branch (US, England, Germany, Spain, Chile) – ca. 40” x 110”

Previews are available in a previous post in this blog.

!!! But please check this warning in my blog about not being able to include all descendants.

The trees can be ordered in three grades of coated paper:

  • value (equivalent to good quality copier paper)
  • standard heavyweight (recommended as default)
  • super heavyweight (approaches the feel of card stock)

The quality of paper and ink means that they should remain good for many years and decades.

The following prices hold if ten or more people order a set, and with eight orders already I’m thinking this will be what we’re looking at:

  • value quality paper: $111.75
  • standard heavyweight paper: $150.86
  • super heavyweight paper: $195.56

The cost of postage and handling will also need to be added.

I propose that I add a set of trees in super heavyweight quality to the total order I send to the printer. This set would be sent to myself as payment for the time and work necessary to design the charts and have them printed. The cost would be distributed evenly among all the other orders. That means the more people that order a set, the less each person pays for my payment set.

This set of trees reflects your family history and shows how you fit in, both with other Wynekens alive right now as well as throughout the centuries. On request I would be willing to create a small chart for anyone who needs to know how he or she fits in to the overall picture.


Please let me know by e-mail – mawyn@gmx.de – by February 15 if you would like to order a set of these trees.


Before I send the order to the printer I will send you the final price and let you know how to transfer the money to me.

Also please pass on this information to as many Wyneken relatives of yours that you can think of. I would like these trees to be distributed as far as possible throughout the family so that if and when somebody decides to make the next updated version of the tree in 140 years or so he or she can easily find a copy of what I am producing now.

Please be aware of this important information!

It is important to note that not all Wyneken descendants appear in the upcoming comprehensive tree. Because the trees turned out so large I had to make a cut-off point:

  • Everybody whose last name is Wyneken is in the tree.
  • Everyone whose mother’s maiden name is Wyneken appears in the tree.
  • If your grandmother’s maiden name was Wyneken but her children were not named Wyneken, then unfortunately you’re not in the tree.
  • If none of your grandparents bore the name “Wyneken”, then you’re not in the tree.

Since it is common in many cultures for women to change their last name when they marry, this means that effectively I have had to cut out descendants of female Wynekens.

If anybody has any questions about this, please get in touch with me!

Last tree complete

I have completed the third and final tree of the new set of trees that show all the Wynekens that have ever existed, at least as far as I’m aware of. A full-sized version of the above tree is available here.

As I’ve mentioned before, the idea is to provide a complete update to the Wyneken family tree published and distributed in about 1877. The tree I’ve just finished shows how everything started by listing the earliest known Wynekens as well as the families of the wives of two of them. The time frame for the earliest generations and their wives’ families is about 200 years, ranging from the early 1500’s through the end of the 1600’s / very beginning of the 1700’s.

I have also included in this chart an overview of how the family developed further by sketching in the two major branches of the Wyneken family, the Bederkesa branch and the Rüstje branch, in two different colors. These are the two branches covered in detail in the other two trees.

At the bottom of this final chart you find the founding fathers of all the branches of the Wyneken family that are in existence today. This chart only shows the direct lines from the beginnings to the founders; complete listings can be found in the other two trees. You can see miniature versions of the other two trees at the bottom of this page.


I believe I’m very close to completing this whole project, but I can imagine it will still be a few months before the printed trees have reached their final owners. Up to now progress in this project has depended solely on myself and on how I can schedule my time. The next steps depend also on other people:

  • Find alternative possibilities for printing the trees.
  • Negotiate special rates with the printer because of the size of the final products and, hopefully, because there will be a large number of orders.
  • Reach as many Wyneken relatives as possible who might be interested in obtaining copies of the trees.
  • Gather the orders and collect the payments.
  • Place the print order.
  • Organize distribution to various people and presumably to different countries.

I’d be pleased to hear from anyone who thinks they can help in any way with any of these steps.


The big trees – Rüstje branch on the left, Bederkesa Branch on the right:

Rüstje Bederkesa

Tree project: Progress report

I finished the second tree! I’ve added pictures and explanatory text to the chart depicting Rüstjethe Rüstje branch of the family.

I’m planning on creating one more tree, the smallest of them all. It will show the beginnings of the family in the 1500’s and provide an overview of how the other two trees fit into the overall picture.

First tree is done

Tree sampleThis past week I put the final touches on the first tree. I mentioned it in my last blog post here. It covers the so-called Bederkesa branch of the family, which includes the two American branches, the Russian branch, and three branches of the family in Germany.

The picture at the left gives an impression of what it looks like. The final product will be about six yards/meters long, however.

I will try to complete the other two charts I have planned during the next months.

 

Progress report on the new tree project

I would like to announce that I have made some progress in creating a new comprehensive family tree. As I warned back in January, this is not going to be a quick project.

My initial tries showed me that I would not be able to fit a whole tree in a single chart so I decided to make three charts: one covering the earliest generations, one covering the Bederkesa branch (primarily Germany, USA, and Russia) and another covering the Rüstje branch (primarily Germany, Chile, England, Spain).

This week I have made use of vacation time to prepare the first tree. I decided to start with the Bederkesa branch because it is the largest of the three. Instead of making it a top-down horizontal tree like the previous Wyneken tree from the late 1800’s, the new tree is vertical, starting with Peter Christoph Wyneken (1644-1683/1684) on the far left and proceeding to the youngest members of the family on the right side of the chart.

Bederkesa treeThe chart when printed will be about 80 cm by 580 cm, roughly 32 inches by 229 inches. That’s a large piece of paper! There’s a miniature version of the chart on the right side of this page. In real life the chart is four letter size pages wide and 22 of that size long.

To print the charts I’m currently planning on using the services of Heartland Family Graphics (http://www.familygraphics.com), the print shop endorsed by the Reunion genealogy software I use. I’m not restricted to using them but right now I see no reason to look elsewhere. The price of the charts will depend on the weight of the paper used. The company is sending me samples to aid me in making a decision.

It looks like this first chart would cost around $130, or $160 for heavier paper. There will also be additional costs for shipping and handling. I’m hoping to be able to get some kind of volume rebate if I can tell the print shop that I will be ordering copies for several parties. I’m thinking that the price ought to go down if there are lots of people who want copies. I’m hoping to be able to interest numerous people in obtaining their own copies, not only in the US but also in Germany, Chile and Spain.

Of course, it would make most sense if people order copies of all three trees so they have the information about the whole family. My rough estimate is that the tree for the Rüstje branch should be only about half the size, and thus cost, of this first tree. The third tree showing the earliest generations should only be about maybe $10.


The top of this blog page shows an excerpt from the tree. At the very bottom of the page is another excerpt from the tree.

Please note that I will never post online any information about living persons in a format that can be read or that is in text form. The tree on the right, for example, potentially contains all the names in the tree but it’s neither in text form nor in a legible size.


Excerpt with pictures

It’s time for an updated Wyneken family tree

The last “official” complete Wyneken family tree — a miniature version is pictured at the top of this page — was created and shared in 1877 / 1878. That was 140 years ago. A lot has happened in the family since then. If you say that a generation is on average 30 years, that means that we today are about 4 2/3 generations farther on.

I think it’s about time to make a new family tree. My Wyneken database provides me with the information I need to make one. I’ve had this on my to-do list for the last two years but I’ve finally gotten to a spot where I think I can do it.

Before I can start actually making a tree there are a number of organizational matters that will have to be addressed:

  • Ensure that private information is not revealed on the internet.
  • Find out who is interested in receiving a copy.
  • Decide what kind of tree, or possibly even several trees?
    • Only last name “Wyneken”.
    • Include descendants of daughters, i.e. other names besides “Wyneken”.
    • Separate trees for individual branches.
  • Perhaps organize helpers.
  • Estimate the cost of a copy of a printed tree.

Warning: Don’t hold your breath

First off, though, I need to warn everybody that this will probably take a while to complete because I have to do everything in my spare time between work and family duties.

Privacy is of utmost importance!!!

I would like to emphasize the importance of making sure that none of the copies of the tree, including any intermediate versions, should ever be posted publicly anywhere on the internet. The tree will include personal data for living persons and that kind of information should not be freely available on the internet. I would like the final product to be only in printed form. PDF versions will be used to create the printed version, and it might be necessary to share some of these PDF files, but I will make every effort to ensure that these versions are not posted. And I would ask anybody who works with me to do the same.

The reason I make such a big deal of this is that there are probably relatives who are reluctant to share their details because they’re afraid that the information will appear in the internet. I want to do everything possible to make people feel safe about sharing their information. Otherwise the tree would remain incomplete.

Who is interested?

The first step in the tree making process is to find out who would be interested in receiving a copy of the final tree or trees, thus:

Anyone who is possibly interested in receiving a copy of the updated tree when it’s done, please let me know. I will gather the names and keep a list. Just drop me a line by e-mail, Facebook, postcard, telephone or carrier pigeon, whatever.

Please also ask all your family members and relatives if they might be interested, especially if they don’t know about my on-line sites. If they’re on Facebook you can point them to the Wynekens World-Wide group. If they don’t do Facebook have them look at the page you’re looking at now. If they’re not particularly internet savvy, they can just get in touch with me at mawyn@gmx.de. And if they prefer old-fashioned communication they can get in touch with me at my address and phone number.

Further communication

I’m trying to figure out a way to organize the communication that will be necessary to organize this project. There are so many options that I think I’m just going to have to start with something and see how it works. If there are problems I will have to make changes as needed.

I’ve decided to set up a Google e-mail list. I think the easiest way to join the list would be to send a message to wynekentree@googlegroups.com saying that they would like to join. I will then add the person to the list and they will receive any further communications.

Alternatively, people with a Google account should be able to join the list by visiting https://groups.google.com/group/wynekentree and signing up. People with a Google account will also be able to view the archived messages at this address.

If you would like to be involved but do not want to be listed in a Google mailing list, just let me know and we’ll try to figure out a way for you to keep in touch.


I’ll be taking this step by step. If anyone has any ideas or something they would like to say about this project, just get in touch with me. I look forward to any kind of input!